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Wednesday, 01 December, 2021

Trump On Pence

Christina Perez
• Saturday, 09 January, 2021
• 6 min read

Nor will he turn power over to Vice President Pence and ask him for a pardon, according to top White House advisers who have spoken with the highest ranking members of Mr. Trump's Cabinet, including Treasury Secretary Mnuchin, Pence and chief of staff Mark Meadows. But on the other side is the Trump -inspired GOP base that threatens to launch primary challenges against House Republicans who vote for impeachment.

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But top cabinet officials still holding positions, chief among them Mnuchin and Pompey, have not refuted the suggestion internally or externally in order to send a signal to Mr. Trump that it's an action they'd be willing to take if he cannot control himself. Top advisers to the White House now know Mr. Trump was generally and initially pleased with the protest at the Capitol, seeing it as a reflection of his supporters' love for him, and not as an assault on the legislative branch and the foundations of a democratic republic.

On Wednesday, he will be responsible for overseeing Congress' count of the Electoral College votes submitted by the states. A group of Republican lawmakers have announced that they plan to object, although they are unlikely to succeed in throwing out the Biden votes.

Trump tweeted falsely Monday that “the Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors.” The New York Times reported that Pence told Trump during their meeting that he did not believe he had the power to block congressional certification.

Pence intends to act as a moderator, fulfilling his duties as president of the Senate, the sources said. They don't expect him to take any actions to influence the outcome aside from letting members who raise objections carry out debates over the results as outlined in the rules.

In recent days, Pence has met with the Senate parliamentarian to go over the process and logistics, Short said. Pence scrapped a trip that had been in the planning stages to travel to Europe and the Middle East immediately after the congressional certification, people familiar with the discussions said.

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Alex Moe is a Capitol Hill producer for NBC News covering the House of Representatives. Peter Alexander, Carol E. Lee, Frank Thor V, Leigh Ann Caldwell and Pete Williams contributed.

The president has been meeting with conspiracy theorists and other fringe characters in the Oval Office to discuss ways to override the will of the voters and the U.S. Constitution, and Axis co-founder Mike Allen reported that Trump has grown paranoid about his own vice president and the Republican majority leader. Axis reported Monday night that Trump was trying to set fellow Republicans against McConnell, who the president insisted was indebted to him for his re-election in Kentucky.

“He had his personal assistant last night send around to Republican lawmakers a slide arguing that Senate Majority Mitch McConnell was, quote, 'First off the ship,' and Trump taking credit for McConnell's win in Kentucky,” Allen said. As you’ve probably heard by now, Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election, and come January 20, is going to displace Donald Trump in the White House.

At this point, the outgoing president has what experts call “negative dignity” and has no chance of salvaging anything, although he could, in theory, avoid thoroughly embarrassing himself once more by accepting the results and moving on or, at the very least, shutting up about them. Speaking at a campaign event for senators David Purdue and Kelly Offer on Monday, Trump told the crowd, “I hope Mike Pence comes through for us, I have to tell you.

It is effectively a ceremonial role and does not, as Trump claimed Tuesday on Twitter, give Pence “the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors” even if election fraud occurred which, of course, it did not. In an interview with Jeanine Piero on Fox News on Saturday night, Peter Navarro, a White House trade adviser, claimed inaccurately that Mr. Pence could unilaterally grant a demand by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and 11 other Republican senators for an “emergency 10-day audit” of the election returns to the states Trump allies are disputing.

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One person close to Mr. Pence described Wednesday’s duties as gut-wrenching, saying that he would need to balance the president’s misguided beliefs about government with his own years of preaching deference to the Constitution. Members of the vice president’s circle expect that Mr. Pence will follow the rules while on the Senate floor and play his ceremonial role as scripted, aides said.

But on the stage on Monday night in Dalton, Georgia, he added a new one: Vice President Mike Pence. But it was just one moment out of many during a lengthy speech in which the outgoing president delivered his perfunctory lines supporting the GOP senators, but buried them within winding tirades in which he surfaced new lies and old conspiracies about the 2020 election.

The New York Times and other news outlets reported Tuesday that Pence told Mr. Trump he doesn't believe he possesses the power to block Congress' certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win. “The New York Times report regarding comments Vice President Pence supposedly made to me today is fake news.

There is no evidence the electors were chosen fraudulently, and the 12th Amendment suggests that Pence's powers are really more ceremonial. His chief of staff, Mark Meadows; White House counsel, Pat Cipollone; the Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo; and the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, are all said to be in the line of fire.

Complaining about a lack of support from Mr Pence, it is believed the president brought up a recent Lincoln Project advert to back up his gripe. The commercial pointed out that it is likely to be the outgoing vice president who will seal Mr Trump's fate when Congress certifies Joe Biden's victory on 6 January.

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The president and his legal team continue to allege, without evidence, that mass voter fraud took place in key swing states across the country.

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