The type of metal and the length of time it remains in the water will determine the amount of rust you ultimately wind up with in your pond. Metal poisoning is very difficult to diagnose, but fish who are suffering from it may have cloudy eyes, appear to be gasping for breath, change color or even die suddenly.
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So I bought a top fin 10gal tank divider and just recently noticed the hooks that hold it in place are rusting.... Will this harm my betas and dwarf frog I find it really stupid as it is made for aquariums.... If I take the metal rusting clips off though what can I use to hold the divider to the tank. Please respond. I have some duckweed that I got free when I purchased a beta and also a plant clipping which seems to be rooting...isn't that awesome buy a betta, and they gave me all the contents that were in the bowl free plant and duckweed... So ill leave the clip in then.....thank you soon much i really appreciate it.
You welcome and your lucky, I have to buy everything, it tends to add up, especially if you're on a budget, I've spent 250 dollars on a ten gallon. I've spent about that much on a 10gal too..... It started off with beta breeding so I used $100 on that which miserably failed.....so to cheer me up I wanted to start a community fish tank with guppies so kinda guppy breeding....I wasted ANOTHER $100 on that and then all my guppies and fish ended up dying of fin clamp and i don't know why....... Only thing survived was my Cordoba..... So your not the only one spending A TON of money on fish tanks.
That should be fine....and I'm not really an experience expert I just do a lot of research about aquariums............mixing water conditioners should be fine though...... I mean it's all the same ingredient just use half of the recommended dose for each so its like you're putting in the right amount but just with 2 different conditioners. Water from corroded pipes, improper decorations or equipment, nails, screws, coins, and even some medications which contain metallic compounds such as Copper Sulfate.
Generally, fish can handle only the smallest trace amounts of certain metals in the water. Metals bind to gills and other tissues, effectively stopping proper functioning.
For example, cheap nets can develop rust which will be introduced into the water every time you use it Metals can accumulate in the organs of aquatic life, causing a variety of physiological problems, ultimately leading to disease outbreaks and death. High levels of one or more of these heavy metals cause rapid death of fish and amphibians without obvious symptoms of disease or tissue damage.
Although Copper is used in marine fish medicine quite frequently, in fresh water it's a different story. Copper accumulates in the fish's systems and is toxic at almost any level in fresh water.
Fish exposed to copper over an extended period of time become dull, darkened and lethargic. The gill filaments initially become severely hyperplasia (huge mucus buildups) and evolve to severe capillary congestion (telaglactisis) With continued exposure the fish become indifferent to any form of external stimuli -- the fish is basically suffocating to death.
» Japan souvenir 2017 part 1 Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:59 pm by ATB TV Is there a chemical solution for this or would I have to empty the pond and physically remove.PS there were 6 fish when we bought of which 2 have died.
One of the remaining has cloudy eye on one side (fan tail goldfish) and various bumps that look like pimples. The other large Comet looks like he is losing his color (but I read that this is fairly natural for Goldfish.
MetalSymptoms: General illness symptoms, flashing, gasping, reddened gills, erratic swimming. Water from corroded pipes, improper decorations or equipment, nails, screws, coins, and even some medications which contain metallic compounds such as Copper Sulfate.
Metals bind to gills and other tissues, effectively stopping proper functioning. Iron seems to affect primarily the gills, lead the nervous system, and copper can affect the whole body, especially the liver. To further guard against introducing metals into the tank, make sure that everything you use in and to do with the pond is metal free and in good condition.
For example, cheap nets can develop rust which will be introduced into the water every time you use metals can accumulate in the organs of aquatic life, causing a variety of physiological problems, ultimately leading to disease outbreaks and death. High levels of one or more of these heavy metals cause rapid death of fish and amphibians without obvious symptoms of disease or tissue damage.
Copper 0.014 mg/l More toxic in soft watering exacerbates toxicity Combined both are dangerousZinc 0.01 mg/l Synergistic with copper 0.15 mg/l In hard WaterCadmium 0.03 mg/l Chromium 0.10 mg/lead 0.01 mg/l In soft Water 4.00 mg/l In hard Waterside 0.03 mg/copper continuous: <.006 mg/l fish kill : >0.3.7 mg/l in soft water, >.6-6.4 mg/l in hard water iron continuous: <.1 mg/l fish kill : >0.5 mg/magnesium continuous: <0.01 mg/l fish kill : >75 mg/lead continuous: <0.02 mg/l fish kill : >1.0-31.5 mg/l Copper is the most poisonous of the bunch. Although Copper is used in marine fish medicine quite frequently, in fresh water it's a different story. Fish exposed to copper over an extended period of time become dull, darkened and lethargic.
Bottom line, no iron in a pond, rusted or not, unless you seal it properly with a very good waterproof sealant. Subject: Re: Rust in pond Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:47 must to add what Paul said. I don’t say Potassium Permanganate is bad for treating fish but beginners like me should be warned about a few facts….
Potassium permanganate, obtainable at pool supply stores, is used in rural areas to remove iron and hydrogen sulfide (rotten egg smell) from well and waste water. Oxidizers react with any organic: bacteria, protists, algae, DOC and particulate detritus-- but also the delicate epidermis covering fish gills.
And some plants are extra sensitive to KMnO4: after a dose of potassium permanganate, Vallisneria can melt away as if it were Cryptocoryne If you want to quickly deactivate KMnO4, you can do it with hydrogen peroxide, which is another caustic oxidizer with antibacterial properties.
You should be aware that KMnO4 inactivates formalin and malachite green; the potassium permanganate will act as an antidote if they are all used together. Sure at times it is necessary and important but any pond addition must be done with the greatest circumspection, and a full knowledge of benefits and potential dangers.
The following is a well accepted fact ... A bio filter properly sized, installed and maintained prevents more than 90% of all pond problems. My plan was to remove enough water to get into the pond (around 5000l) and basically cut out the base and seal what's left.
This will help to prevent an outbreak of disease since you have disturbed the fish and environment and immunity will be low. Subject: Re: Rust in pond Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:09 PMI agree, under normal circumstances I do not use salt.
Subject: Re: Rust in pond Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:21 PMI, You can use salt and potassium permanganate together! Never treat muddy water with “pp” as this can promote the toxic Manganese dioxide on the gill filaments. It can be used in an emergency to release available oxygen to KOI if there is a shortage of oxygen. Potassium permanganate is very toxic to fry! A complete water change should be effected after using in the pond.
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Wayneb Posts : 1745Reputation : 29Join date : 2007-12-08Age : 42Location : Kraal Fontana, Cape Town Metro pol Subject: Re: Rust in pond Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:13 sorry Paul, fiberglass skimmer on this side.
The easy did come with a lid, which I did not use...it's made of thicker stainless steel than the rest of the unit, I left it outside in the wind and rain but it does not have a scratch on it. Subject: Re: Rust in pond Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:22 PMI Wayne am in the telecom industry and on many occasions seen stainless steel corrode.
Wayneb Posts : 1745Reputation : 29Join date : 2007-12-08Age : 42Location : Kraal Fontana, Cape Town Metro pol Subject: Re: Rust in pond Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:55 thank you Marius for that detailed explanation.
Subject: Re: Rust in pond Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:27 found the following bits and pieces for you. Once in, the attack can continue on in a manner similar to that which happens when rust starts to spread under the paint on an automobile.
It occurs when the corrosive environment penetrates the passivated film in only a few areas as opposed to the overall surface. This difference in relative areas accelerates the corrosion, causing the pits to penetrate deeper.
I have spoken to several people so far and no one has ever heard about doing it that way but non of them are electricians either so I guess it does not count either. Under certain conditions, a conductor used to connect to a system neutral is also used for grounding (earthing) of equipment and structures.
Very small differential voltages, not usually perceptible to humans, may cause low milk yield, or even mastitis (inflammation of the udder). So-called “tingle voltage filters” may be required in the electrical distribution system for a milking parlor.
Since normal circuit currents in the neutral conductor can lead to objectionable or dangerous differences between local earth potential and the neutral and to protect against neutral breakages, special precautions such as frequent nodding down to earth, use of cables where the combined neutral and earth completely surrounds the phase conductor(s), and thicker than normal equipotential bonding must be considered to ensure the system is somewhere a ground connection has a significant resistance, the approximation of zero potential is no longer valid. Stray voltages or earth potential rise effects will occur, which may create noise in signals or if large enough will produce an electric shock hazard.